The Height of the Modified Predator From The Predator
- The increase in height of several feet from what is considered typical Yautja height just seems unrealistically excessive, even for one that had genetically modified itself.
- Obviously the cinematic art of pitting man against monster is unknown to those filmmakers, if they want to continue pumping them up again and again and make Predator vs. Predator movies then you might as well watch monster trucks or something equally inane and if Disney decides they want to try their hand at fingerpainting with another brand of science fiction then we could expect to see more AVP movies in a similar vein as Alien Loves Predator.
- I only liked them when they just made cartoons about talking animals and princesses... Freighttrain, The (talk) (Contribs) 11:47, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
Maybe. To me, I think one of the species' DNA the Yautja used to create the predator is one similar to the cuttlefish, in terms of possessing genes to allow its body to withstand an accerated growth rate.Evolto001 (talk) (Contribs) 12:00, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
- Haha all that so-called Ultimate Predator is doing by genetically modifying himself to become larger is making himself less Yautja and instead something that would be more accurately described as ultimate game (for other Yautja). If those filmmakers had a competent understanding of Yautja culture then they would realise that a Yautja wouldn't do that to himself because it would be obvious to him what he was doing i.e. making himself no more than big game for other Yautja.
- There is a difference between actual bad blood Yautja and that contextually unfeasible mess, actual bad blood Yautja would understand that; after becoming a bad blood; greater stealth and resourcefulness is from then on much more important for survival than artificially increasing physical size and strength (and certainly not at the cost of becoming more conspicuous) and this is for reasons that should be obvious to those who have a basic understanding of context and realism in regard to Predator/AVP lore, for example an 11 ft tall (the same height as an adult male African bush elephant!) dark black Yautja would be much easier to detect from a distance and then target with a plasmacaster etc.
- And I don't think the filmmakers would have gone so far as to actually research what genetics would be required for the feasibility of accelerated growth rate when you look at how sloppy everything else shown so far in those movie trailers is and I don't think that genetic engineering is a science that the Yautja would have developed to such an extent either, it isn't their style. Freighttrain, The (talk) (Contribs) 12:09, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
- Well to begin with by talking about the 'upgraded predator' you are asking me about something I don't see as appropriate content in Predator/AVP lore and so I won't speculate on how to appropriately portray something I don't see as appropriate at all and certainly not when it is obvious to me that it would be much easier to make a canonical movie with already existing lore.
- If they want to make another movie about bad blood Yautja then they could have just done that instead of inventing canonically unfeasible plot elements in an attempt to put a new spin on a franchise that already has a rich lore for plenty of creative inspiration and I have made a blog post with further information on that.
- Haha to be honest they could have just made a Predator movie similar to the first two (without bad blood Yautja, which is a relatively obscure niche in other Predator franchise media) but in a different setting, the use of a suburban setting in The Predator may seem like a nice variation, but seeing as Yautja would prefer humans not know of their existence I would expect them to only appear in more built up areas (jungle and urban environments etc.) and whilst human warfare is taking place so that they may pursue their sport unfettered amidst the chaos.
- It seems those filmmakers are forgetting that the Yautja (despite being physically very large, menacing and possessing advanced weapons) are honourable hunters skilled at stealth, not muttonheaded brawlers or indiscriminate destroyers. Freighttrain, The (talk) (Contribs) 13:31, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
Ok. Then, if the upgraded predator was a different alien species that was at war with the Yautja, would that be more related to the Predator lore? (Evolto001 (talk) (Contribs) 13:58, September 11, 2018 (UTC))
- No, if filmmakers want to make a movie showing Yautja battling against comparably monstrous creatures then all they have to do is make more AVP movies, but well-planned canonical films and not the ridiculous Frankentwat Meets the Bitchman nonsense of the first two AVP movies. Freighttrain, The (talk) (Contribs) 14:03, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
- No, concepts such as the Yautja homeworld and the canonically unfeasible 'ultimate predator' seem to me as nothing more than obvious attempts at finality with a franchise that actually does have functionally perpetual creative potential for quality hard science fiction media without attempting unnecessary and/or categorically incompatible lore expansion etc.
- And if you want to see the Yautja at war with another technologically advanced extraterrestrial species like Engineers, then I have explained why I believe that is also unfeasible nonsense in the blog post I mentioned earlier. Freighttrain, The (talk) (Contribs) 14:13, September 11, 2018 (UTC)
- If this standard of creativity persists with filmmaking etc. then you could expect the next Predator movie to be a soppy story of interspecies romance like the one portrayed in James Cameron's deviant Avatar movie...