Talk: Predalien (caste)

Rename

I am considering renaming this page something like Predalien (Caste), as Predaliens are a Xenomorph type, not a species. If anyone disagrees or has something to say about this, please say. TroopDude ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 14:57, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

I agree, they are not a different species so either (caste) or (xenomorph) The Cruentus ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 17:39, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect terminology

The Predalien it self in not a different caste, it needs to be changed to Predaliens or something else.

This page needs to be merged with the Predaliens page. Calling the Predalien a caste is wrong, because most of the ones seen are Warriors.WAVE ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 19:04, August 22, 2012 (UTC)

So was the term species, as predaliens are not a separate species. Maybe it can be called "strain" or "xenomorph type" The Cruentus ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 22:58, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Predlalien types

i think that the predalien comes in many forms like the one on lv-742 is a gentic queen and the one on bg-386 six is a warrior type or praetorion and the one on lv-1201is a drone type 173.228.64.59 17:52, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

we should do more parts on this page about the otherpredaliens like these ones lv-742, bg-386,-ruysi the birth place of the prealien idea and the one on lv-120199.139.74.241 21:27, November 10, 2012 (UTC)praetorionmaster97

They already have their own pages. The Cruentus ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 21:36, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

what would be the out come of a superpredalien aka a facehugger attacking a super pred like mister black99.139.74.241 21:56, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

Probably the same thing as usual, super predators are not super or special, its just a nickname. They are just another clan of predators, ones which don't follow the same code or ethics. so a predalien would still be just another predalien but yet again, every single predalien to date has just been different from the last. The Cruentus ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 22:09, November 10, 2012 (UTC)

predaliens types

I think hat predaliens come in diffrent types Earth one praetorion? the bg386 a warrior the 1201 a drone and the ryusi a warrior and the predqueen from avpe 173.228.64.59 01:08, November 16, 2012 (UTC)pr97

Berserker alien- a form of Predalien?

I know I brought this up on the Berserker alien page, but do you think a Berserker alien is just another form of Predalien? Thanks. Deathblade 100 ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 09:23, August 12, 2014 (UTC)

Molting Section

I believe the molting section should stay. This is general information about the caste and the Predaliens from AVPE do molt into stronger forms when they are upgraded. These are facts and I don't know why you and Cruentus are so insistent on removing. Also, just because you disagree and happen to be admins doesn't put you in the right.Werebereus - ಠ_ಠ 00:25, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

It's not about anyone being in the right, it's the fact that what you'd added previously was full of conjecture. When called out on this you simply resorted to edit warring to put it back in. That is against the rules. Even after this was pointed out to you, you kept doing it. I've noticed that you often flaunt the rules in this way and are routinely combative when someone points out that what you are doing contravenes policy. Having said that, the modified Molting section you have added most recently has removed the conjecture and is fine, although some references to actually back up what it states would be nice.-- LEIGH BURNE^(Talk) 16:53, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

As a wiki, you have to expect your edits to be mercilessly edited or removed if they are full of conjecture/speculation. The fact that it is YOUR edits doesn't give you any rights to it whatsoever, if for example you created a new page, and it got deleted or heavily edited then you have no right to complain because it is not yours. Nothing belongs to anyone on a wiki except your user page. Point is, don't get combative simply because YOUR edits are being tweaked or outright removed. Another thing, no one argued that the predalien molts, anyone who has played AVPE would know that but claiming that they are praetorians is just blatant speculation with no grounds to back it up. Also you must consider whether or not the molting ability is merely a game mechanic. Because no other predalien does that and plenty have been wounded. -- The Cruentus^(Talk) 17:29, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

On the subject of game mechanics, I do have a bit of an issue with so religiously following what Aliens versus Predator: Extinction says, because so much of it is obviously bogus RTS game mechanic stuff that has never been seen anywhere else. It might be something we need to discuss in the future.-- LEIGH BURNE^(Talk) 08:54, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

Indeed, this is one of the reasons that I was removing the molting section. When it comes to games, especially ones like extinction, one needs to make sure they are not taking game mechanics too seriously.-- The Cruentus^(Talk) 13:52, October 6, 2016 (UTC)

Possibly equal to Praetorians?

Is it possible that if a Predalien/PredAlien does molt, could the possibility of it being - at the most - equal to Praetorians, and still weaker than a typical Xenomorph Queen? This comes from the Predalien/PredAlien is of the same height as the Praetorian, and Queens being stronger than Elite Yautja. What does the community think of this proposal/hypothesis? - BlitzGundam ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 03:59, April 10, 2017 (UTC)

Feeback

Correct me if this the wrong place for it, but I'd like some feedback on my edits of the Predalien page.Xhosayande ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 23:11, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Well I wouldn't use youtube as the only source and you need to keep the information in a neutral point of view and avoid slang terms. I have added a clean up tag to the page so that someone can go over it and see what needs to be done. There also seems to be speculation such as the dreadlocks, now I might have missed something over the few months but as far as I know, the dreadlocks on predators haven't been stated as having the purpose of balancing and sensing. I could be wrong but last I checked, we still didn't know their purpose. -- The Cruentus^(Talk) 11:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

I mean, if the youtube videos are direct clips of the movie then what's the harm? Also, what slang terms were used? There's no speculation about the dreadlocks. Their purpose is stated and sourced on their respective page.Xhosayande ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 12:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Just checked the dreadlock page, it does seem to be sourced so my bad, like I said, I might have missed it due being busy. Youtube videos just tend not to be the best sources, especially if the source can be found on a more trusted and official site etc. What I mean by slang terms, is the claw to claw etc. Pages need to be written like an encylopedia or official document. More professional for a lack of a better term. -- The Cruentus^(Talk) 13:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Don't erase giant portions of my hard work without a good reason, please.Xhosayande ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 18:45, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

You know, it's very frustrating and borderline rude for admins to come behind my hard work and just gut everything without giving a reason and it seems without even reading the article. You really went to the Drone page and just undid everything from two or three days and reverted the page to an another admin's version. I'll admit the Infestation and Royal Transformation portions of the Predalien page could've probably been condensed into the Praetorian-type section, but you should've given me the opportunity to do that instead of wholesale erasing everything. If this is how my hard work pouring through books and meta information is going to be rewarded, then I can just put everything away and work on another wiki that appears to appreciate what I'm doing.

Anyway, I've made my final edits to the page. If you want to undo them, that's fine. But I think I'll be taking my own hiatus from doing major edits on this wiki if they're just gonna be trashed. I'm not here to fight.Xhosayande ^{(talk) (Contribs)} 19:00, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

You asked for feedback and you got it, no need to be upset about it. Your edits are good faith but the way some of them were worded was not suitable, then there was the redundancies and speculation i.e not all Predaliens infect others, that was just Chet. Please read the policy before making multiple large edits. What I removed was info that was either redundant i.e information that is already mentioned or exists on another page, speculative or was not in-line with how articles should be written i.e Claw to claw. That doesn't mean your efforts or intent was not good.

Edits in wikis get altered or removed all the time, it is the nature of wikis, if you take issue with a particular edit then use the talk page to discuss it. Always read the policy first and always make sure the information you add isn't already mentioned elsewhere or at least better suited elsewhere. A lot of your variant stuff could have simply been put into the Xenomorph XX121 page rather than the drone or predalien pages, since the Xenomorph page covers the entire species.-- The Cruentus^(Talk) 18:12, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

If the way they are edited is not suitable, then edit them to be suitable, do not wholesale erase things and then give no explanation as to why. That's my main problem; the lack of reason given.Xhosayande ^{(talk)(Contribs)} 07:28, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

I did edit it to be suitable.....I reworded things that was not proper and removed info that was speculative and redundant. As for explanation, I said I tweaked the page and I also said I removed quotes that were not in-universe. -- The Cruentus^(Talk) 09:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC)