Ash has always been the most intriguing character in the franchise. I've always wondered if his actions in the film were from following company directives, or from his own motivations. He clearly admires and is fascinated by the xenomorph. Given the events of Prometheus and Alien Covenant, I have to wonder if David's programming was used in the 120/A-2 models. Anyone have any thoughts?
Yeah for essentially a walking computer (which should be all about logic and efficiency) his method of killing was very slow and inefficient. His strength alone could have killed her instantly, which is another thing. His strength should have allowed to him forced that magazine down her throat easily regardless of her resistence yet she was able to resist somewhat. There is definitely some form of conflict or issue is going on with him, he was even leaking white fluid from his forehead before he attacks her.
Two other scenes that suggest Ash had his own motivations: When Parker attempts to save Ripley, instead of just knocking him away, he starts crushing Parker's collarbone. After Ash pointed out they are required to investigate the transmission and Parker says , "right, we're going in" Ash is looking daggers at Parker's back. This was his way of getting back at Parker for picking on him.
When Dallas is in the air shaft, and the alien is closing in, Ash looks smug, almost a look of satisfaction that Dallas is being eliminated. Different scripts imply that Dallas and Ripley had a relationship, even in the finished film, there is an intimacy in how Dallas and Ripley interact. I've wondered if Ash had mixed feelings towards Ripley and saw Dallas as a rival.
I suppose that is what makes it all so interesting, there is different ways to interprete the motivations of Ash and the situation.
Personally I prefer the malfunction angle as a robot should not have the chemistry and hormones necessary to be sexually frustrated. Though David's story tends to throw that out of the window what with his tears and clearly emotional outbursts.
Excellent point, one which opens another area of speculation: Are the synthetics in the Alien universe just mechanical constructs that mimic humans, or are they a type of artificial life? There are good arguments for both.
Well the working Joes definitely seem more mechanical but synthetics such as Bishop are more ambiguous, their insides are clearly not organic yet not metal or mechanical either, it is an interesting thing to speculate about. Eldon from the fire and Stone series was what is called a "meat construct" being an android that is apparently truly organic, hence why he was vulnerable to the black goo accelerant.
In one way I am glad its not all explained much as it allows room for thoughts about it, plus it adds another interesting mystery to the universe other than just the Aliens.
I wholeheartedly agree, fiction, (whether film, books or whatever), should make one think. I recall reading somewhere someone pointed out that the use of the words Alien or Aliens in the franchise titles, could refer to the synthetics as well. They are certainly "alien" compared to humans.
Curiously I find it makes the Aliens less alien, as Covenant showed that David created them, meaning their are human's "grandcreation" for a lack of a better word, it makes the universe seem smaller, at least in my opinion anyway. Even the space jockey became less alien and more "off-shoot human"
It is good that it makes us question everything, but it also adds frustration.
But I can appreciete that it shows how dangerous the androids are in they own right as they are often overlooked as if they just another tool of man, yet one of them has created a very dangerous threat to most organic life.
I've often felt that in regards to the synthetics in the franchise, their creators didn't fully understand exactly what they created. Certainly Weyland didn't understand David. If he did, he might have treated him better.
One of my fascinations with Alien and subsequent adaptions, is there are so many implications and areas of speculation.
Interesting thing is that despite that, Weyland still treated David better than he did Vickers, clearly preferring him as a "son" over his actual daughter.
I agree, though I feel the prequels have been narrowing how much we can speculate. For example, before covenant we had no idea how long the derelict was there on LV-426 or where the Aliens came from, were they made by the Jockeys? Were they natural horrors just found by the Jockeys? There was questions that allowed us to ponder their origins but Covenant then showed us that they are just a recent artificial life form created by another artificial creation. I suppose there is some poeticness in that but I feel it narrows the universe a bit.
In Ridley Scott's Blade Runner you see a similar dichotomy from Eldon Tyrrell. After taking the Voight-Kampf test Rachel tells Deckard Tyrell refuses to see her. Yet when Roy Batty confronted Tyrell, he praises Batty's actions. Although there has been speculation that Vickers was herself synthetic, the evidence points to her being human.
I agree about the origins of the xenomorphs, humans "sowing the seeds" of their own destruction is poetic, but not very satisfying.
What do you think?